Disillnd Lamb. I had lunch with a former priest for 40 yrs. He said that in all his seminary studies there was NEVER a mention of the Gnostic Gospels. When Constantine gathered the bishops they cherry picked all canons that worked to unite the Church as a POWER. It wasn't about truth of God. They ordered all other tomes to be distroyed even though they were just as valid as the ones they chose. I recently listened to Elaine Pagels CD about the book of Thomas. Really interesting. The JWs study not to find Truth but only to enforce what they have been taught. I told him about a documentary I saw about the Vatican Library and I said that the church knows they are teaching crap. He believes they have all the lost gnostic information. The NWT says it is translated from the origional languages. Well there are NO origional writings even close to being origional...not even the dead sea scrolls....they too are a translation. AND there were up to 30 other gnostic writings (including the book of Judas which is a real mind blower) that were laying right with the copy from Isaiah. Hardly anyone mentions these.
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I have other sheep which are not of this fold
by Wayward Son injohn 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
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Every day that goes by in this rotten old system is just one day closer to Jehovahs new world.
by life is to short ini grew up hearing this all the time.
it made me wish my life away, not look at the small joys every day of life brings to all of us.
instead i looked at all the bad there was in the world, my life, etc and blamed it all on satan.
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I relate. I don't really have motivation. I never really learned to celebrate anything in life. Just kinda stuck.
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For those of you who inactive, but not officially DFd/DAd, how do you manage?
by undercover ini read with interest the thread about how people who are mentally out yet still attend (some) meetings manage to do continue to do it and it got me wondering, how do those of us who are completely inactive, no longer practicing members of the faith, manage to pull off our new ex-jw life, yet never invite scrutiny or investigation from former friends, elders, etc.. take me, for example.
i've been out several years now, but have never officially renounced my faith.
i've never out and out called it a crock of shit to anyone who could make real trouble for me.
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I finally just walked away. I am just trying to live and not be mentally ill. The last time an elder came by I was on my way to "church". My brother had just died. I told him that the bible says you will know them by the love they have.... when my mother died not one jw came to help or provide solice. When my brother died...same thing ...only I got a lot of help......from the United States Marine Corps (My brother joined the marines to get away from my mothers religion). How's THAT for love Mr Elder? I also mentioned that they do worship a trinity...Jah, Jesus and the Gov Body. He's never come back. That's the only conversation I've had. I don't care what they think. I do still love and miss the ones I grew up with. They don't love me back. When I see them or run into them I am always kind and respectful. I don't speak doctrines with them. They are mislead as I was. It's just very sad.
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I Want Your Prediction: Who Will Be The Republican Nominee & Will He Beat Obama?
by minimus ini think romney will be the guy but i have my doubts that he will beat obama because no one seems to be in the lineup that anyone wants to embrace..
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The repubs got nuthin. I'm remembering how the repubes made those truckloats of votes get lost in Fla, voting places in dems areas closing early. Then all those new voting computers put out that were made by Bush cronies. There just is not one pleasant thought about Bush's administration. His winning decided by the Supreme Court. Katrina. The Dick Cheney and Halaburton, Blackwater, stupid unjustified wars, even Imminant Domain reconstructed so that ANY business can take your property whether it is for public good or not. Giving Corporations the title of "persons". How Bush used 9-11 to get what big Corp wanted in the middle east. Bankrupting the nation and taking huge loans from China. Attacking Unions and moving industries overseas creating massive unemployment. Obama might win but then the repubes can repeat the Bush playbook. Senators and Congressmen getting uber rich on insider trading. It just makes me sick.
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New to the forums.
by ViridianSoul ini looked all over for a place to introduce myself and either i'm completely blind or i missed it.
i figured i'd just post it here.. okay.. hello to everyone.
my name's tabitha.
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Welcome!!!! I was literally in for 36 years and started pulling roots out ever since and they no longer have any power in my brain (although sometimes ideas pop up that came from the borg). Sounds like you are having a great life and that is wonderful. I've been going to the Universal Unitarian church (I'm still uncomfortable saying "church". How did you like your experience with them? I recently had lunch with a couple who previously had been a priest and nun for 40 yrs in the Catholic church. It was really interesting to see the similarities emotionally they went thru like I did in escaping the borg. They are really neet people. They pointed out to me that they had it a little easier because they had each other. They both got degrees in social work and were able to make a decent living.. They also survived their son's suicide. I spoke of mydificulities in going thru my mother's death and my two brother's death in a short time and being unable to go thru their things. They are both lay ministers. Any way. I like the social justice ideals of this group and the fact that they are outrageously inclusive. So anyway, welcome. It is a pleasure to know you.
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Our door to door activities were a personal ministry and not recognised as representatives or volunteers of the Watchtower Bible And Tract Society
by smiddy inhow do you feel about that ?were you misled (again) after all these years ?
this article from the newspaper in the latrobe area reffering to steven unthanks case is truly disturbing.
its an affront and an insult to any and everyone who has participated in the ministry of jehovah`s witnesses over many, many years.talk about being thrown to the wolves.how low can this organization go in saving face at the expense of those whose loyalty and devotion is discarded for a perceived image.absolutely shocking.
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If that's the case, why did we count our time, turn it in, and the society use it in their publications? Why did the society create a governing body directed "Ministry School" to show us how THEY wanted us to think and speak? Why did the society provide milllions of THEIR publications for us to distribute? What a giant LIE!!!!!!!
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I have other sheep which are not of this fold
by Wayward Son injohn 10:16 - and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. setting: jesus was talking to a blind man he had recently cured and the pharisees were listening in.
it sounds like he had a larger audience that likely included his apostles.so, who is "this fold" he was referring to and who are the "other sheep"?according to wts doctrine, the heavenly calling (covenant) had not been instituted yet.
we don't hear about that until the last supper.
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Interesting to note neither Matthew, Mark, Luke or John had NOTHING to do with writing these books. They were long dead when these were written by anonymous writers. The names were given much, much later. Since these apostles were "unletterered and ordinary" who made a written record or the exact conversations? I submit....nobody. Just like who wrote the 1st five books of the Bible? Moses? I think not since all the stories there preexisted in other "pagan" myths such as the Epic of Gilgamesh.
The borg is just another attempt at interpretation of the impossible...just like the Catholic Church.
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Yes, Mouthy. I have felt sorry for her but is she really a victim? There's only one kid still in the borg. She must hear reality from her kids. That family is a hot mess especially the Dad.
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WARNING.... Extremely disturbing and racist Awake! magazine (October 8, 1977)
by Alfred inwarning: offensive and racist awake!
magazine.... really, how great are racial differences?
are they of such a degree that people of different races cannot live together as equals, and take real pleasure in one anothers company?
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the borg....King of Crock
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What are your favourite movie lines/quotes????
by karter in''well there's one thing you got ta ask yourself punk....you felling lucky...well do ya punk".....clint eastwood dirty harry.. "it's life jim but not as we know it" capt kirk star treck..
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Every line from Young Frankenstein.